User talk:KimKilWhan7

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Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Holy Hand Grenade page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything!

Good luck editing, Danuhau (talk) 16:35, August 8, 2014 (UTC)

Wait a minute...
I knew it... It's you, Captain Falcon... I can tell. It's so damn obvious. I suspected it was you anyway.

Now, if you do anything stupid, such as starting another argument, Danuhau will block you permanently and there is nothing you could do about it. I hope you created an account for a good reason, and not to begin more arguments. So you better watch what you type. Are we clear? (By the way, I thought you were "leaving forever".)

And Danuhau, please don't block him yet. So far he has done nothing wrong, but you may block him permanently if he starts another argument.

Boggy B (talk) 02:25, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * What? I just came here to make edits and talk when necessary I don't even know who "Captain Falcon" is, and what leads you to believe that I'm Captain Falcon? Just because I said something about siding with him? Tell me why you are framing me.KimKilWhan7 (talk) 02:29, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Please stop, I thought lying was a sin. Just admit it. You're either Captain Falcon or his brother (most likely Captain Falcon). It's okay, we won't block you if you don't do anything wrong, such as starting another argument. And you want to know how I can easily tell that you're Captain Falcon (or his brother)?
 * "MY OCCUPATION IS  Smash bros. Quality time with loved ones. Jesus. ETC."
 * ...That explains everything. You also use "P.S." a lot (unlike anyone else in this wiki) and also type "your" instead of "you're" (again, unlike anyone else in this wiki). Just don't try to fool me, I'm smarter than you think, as I said before.
 * Boggy B (talk) 02:40, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * there is more than one Christian in the world. Contact me via live chat this wikia tomorrow at 2:30 P:M eastern time, and when did I use P.S? KimKilWhan7 (talk) 02:43, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * When will you just give up? Please stop lying, I thought lying was a sin, which you are supposed to avoid. It's terribly obvious that you are Captain Falcon and I have already explained why. It's okay. We won't block you. Just don't start another argument. You know what? Tell me your age, and don't lie.
 * By the way, you used "P.S." in your edit summary for the "Holy Hand Grenade" article. Captain Falcon does that. He also types "your" instead of "you're", like you do.
 * Boggy B (talk) 02:54, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

(Resetting Indentation) And I thought only men had penises, but there are mutations. There are hundreds of people who do the same exact thing, I refuse to tell you my age, talk to me on smashpedia that's where I get most E-mails. KimKilWhan7 (talk) 03:19, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * No, I'm not going anywhere. I just don't understand why you won't admit that you're Captain Falcon, though. You're not going to get blocked, as long as you don't start another argument. And I already know your age. You're 13 years old.


 * Boggy B (talk) 03:11, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Please I'm begging you stop I'm not Captain Falcon, I don't know why you think I am, I'm not 13 years old, and I want to be in wikia in peace. I promise you I'm a different user and I am fully aware lying is a sin. So is an accusatory attitude. KimKilWhan7 (talk) 03:19, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * I still don't believe you, but fine. I'll leave you alone. But perhaps you should reason with Oscuritaforze on Smashpedia, he had no good reason to leave this wiki and we need more active users here.
 * Boggy B (talk) 03:23, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * well yes he did. After I met him on smashpedia I read his message wall this "Captain Falcon" asked him why he left. He said that Danuhau never listened to him and ignored everything he said. He even felt Danuahu wasn't fit to be Bureaucrat. So he exercised his "RightToLeave". Hope that helps. KimKilWhan7 (talk) 03:56, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, okay. I remember that. But that was not a very good reason to leave. Danuhau is a good admin and bureaucrat, and maybe Danuhau was just inactive during the argument we had on that forum, instead of "ignoring" Oscuritaforze. Danuhau is more active these days and he certainly wouldn't "ignore" anyone, if that's what Oscuritaforze thought. Besides, I'm probably going to become an admin and bureaucrat soon too, so you could reason with Oscuritaforze and tell him that I created an account (before he left this wiki I didn't have an account at the time, but you probably knew that), and that I might become an admin. I'm very active and I never ignore users who reply to me or say anything about me.


 * Boggy B (talk) 04:33, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

I will not block this user unless I have evidence that he has done something wrong. I really hope that you are not this "falcon" guy because that would only create more mischief. About Oscuritaforze: Of course I could not listen to him at all times, I simply cannot run around and follow every order by a random user. Furthermore, because I was a new admin, he did not trust me or support me. I'm glad he is gone, because he just spreads negativity. - Danuhau (talk) 07:09, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * I have enough evidence to prove that this "new user" is Captain Falcon. It's terribly obvious actually. You don't need to block him though, I think he changed. but if he starts another major argument, you can block him permanently and there is nothing he could do about it, he would be gone forever. But I hope he did change...


 * And I suppose you're right about Oscuritaforze, but he was one of our only active users here. By the way, when will I earn my promotion? A lot of time has passed, I think I should just become an admin and bureaucrat now (if you want, you can promote me into a bureaucrat later, it's your choice). KimKilWhan7, you can vote on whether I should or should not become an admin here. Please state your opinion, and why.


 * One last thing, KimKilWhan7, if you improve your grammar and spelling and capitalization, make a lot of useful edits, and behave appropriately, I might consider promoting you (if I ever do become an admin).


 * Boggy B (talk) 08:37, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * I will not argue about whether he is falcon or not, and you do not need to tell me to block him or not, I make my decisions based on guidelines and wikia policy.  Secondly, I said that you must not rush it... it has only been A Few Days . You will not become admin in a few days, I also had to wait. There is a lot of work to do for me before I will consider expanding this wiki's staff. This is your LAST warning... do not bring it up all the time.
 * - Danuhau (talk) 09:10, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * How am I "rushing it"? I am not even TRYING to "rush it", for me it felt like a long time has passed, I highly doubt that it has only been "a few days". And what do you mean by "there is a lot of work to do for me before I will consider expanding this wiki's staff"? You mean I have to make more edits? You said I don't need to, and I don't need to prove anything (yes, you said that). Or did you mean YOU have to make more edits?


 * If you want to promote me later, fine. But you're being a little vague here. I can't read your mind, you know. Again, I'm not trying to "rush" anything, I just don't want to wait too long without even knowing why I have to wait. Until you suddenly decide to promote me for whatever reason, I won't mention it anymore, or as you would say, "rush it". But if you forget, don't blame me. Goodbye.


 * Boggy B (talk) 10:29, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * I meant exactly what I said, that I have to clean out some old pages and stuff. If you feel that a long time has passed, be sure to track the days so you actually know how long it has been. Yes, you are still rushing it, that's what I said. Please have patience, I will not reply if you keep on nagging.
 * - Danuhau (talk) 16:52, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

(Reset indentation) It would appear that KimKilWhan7 has misinterpreted my reasons for leaving this place. It was never because Danuhau (or anyone else) didn't listen to me. In fact, I don't think I ever made a suggestion ("order") about how this wiki should be run for people to listen to.

In reality, why I left was strictly because of how Danuhau handled the situation described in Forum:I can't believe this.. I feel that I brought up some relevant criticism and good points there, but none of it was ever addressed. Instead, it was brushed aside and ignored in favor of vague appeals to the "good of the wiki". I do not want to be a part of a wiki which seems to be OK with such a blatant lack of transparency, or one which simply accepts extreme assertions without proof. So I left.

As for Danuhau's statements above...


 * "Furthermore, because I was a new admin, he did not trust me or support me. I'm glad he is gone, because he just spreads negativity."

The events I am referring to transpired after you had been an admin for five months. As far as I am concerned, that is not "new" any longer. What's more, my first interaction with you was a relatively respectful [ request to explain and/or reconsider a decision]. It's not like my first words to you were going out of my way to cast doubt on your abilities or something back when you were first made into an admin. I tell everyone to assume good faith; it would be a bit hypocritical of me to not do so myself.

As for me "just [spreading] negativity": last I checked, the vast majority of my edits are helping out other users and explaining how various parts of Wikia work. If you are talking about the relatively small number of edits I made to the forum linked above, what I said was critical, not negative. It is necessary for users on a wiki to be able to have and express dissatisfaction with the administration on a wiki, just so that other people can also share their concerns and take some kind of action if necessary. The admins are always accountable to the community; the community here just didn't share my concerns (and that's fine).

Oscuritaforze (talk) 18:41, August 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, so now you've decided to come back? Thank you for refusing to tell us how to use this "special ban" you've mentioned earlier, we REALLY appreciated that. It doesn't even matter though, Danuhau has disabled anonymous editing (although Captain Falcon has created an account now, but we can just block him permanently if he starts another argument). What has gotten into you, anyway?


 * And I think you overreacted. It was just some discussion/argument/whatever on a forum, it only happened once. Also, Danuhau was not very active at the time, and he probably didn't need or want to continue that unnecessary discussion (We were only discussing Q*terplx's ban, which happened ages ago, right?). He probably didn't leave any proof backing up his reason for blocking Q*terplx because he was inactive or something, or he simply didn't need to. I see nothing wrong with Danuhau as an administrator, and besides, this wiki is not even that popular anymore, and there isn't much activity. We need Danuhau. Our other admins are gone. If you're here to "criticize" users by the way they behave during some discussion that they don't care about and completely ignoring the vast amount of edits they have made, then I don't really know what to say to you. Your opinion on Danuhau's administration omits his immense edit count entirely. Danuhau has made a lot of useful edits, and more edits than anyone else in this wiki (I'm not sure if he has made more edits than me, though).


 * If I ever become an admin here, I hope you won't "criticize" me too, if I ever become inactive during some random, unnecessary discussion or argument.


 * Boggy B (talk) 04:35, August 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * I know that I have been inactive for some time during the past 3 months, but nobody can blame me for spending time with my family. Even though I have been admin for some time now, I do not know much about stuff. I expected Orangitu to share with me how to use admin tools and different shortcuts, but he never did. All that I have learned, comes from wikia and google, which I have mentioned before.
 * The argument that was started when I was inactive was not easy to handle. As admin I did my best to learn what the situation was all about, but there were thousands of words and I couldn't spend all my time resolving it.
 * - Danuhau (talk) 15:41, August 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Exactly. But despite this, Oscuritaforze just decides to abandon us without even knowing the truth, and contributes to Smashpedia instead. Smashpedia is already an extremely popular wiki and has more than enough active users, and yes, I know that Oscuritaforze is an admin there but he could at least contribute to this wiki a little too. There are already two other active admins there, and one of them is a bureaucrat. I'm not saying Oscuritaforze should leave Smashpedia (especially since he's an admin there). I'm saying he shouldn't abandon a dying wiki for no good reason. A wiki that needs more users, a wiki that needs him. I want this wiki to be strong and help it grow. It's like everyone here betrayed us and just disappeared (Koenachtig, Orangitu, Q*terplx, Oscuritaforze, etc.), now there's only me and Danuhau left. This is simply ludicrous.


 * Boggy B (talk) 15:52, August 10, 2014 (UTC)

After discovering this wikia and all about it and how accusatory, unreasonable, and Christ-hating the contributors are, I found out this wiki isn't worth contribution In. I will exercise my "RightToLeave", a link to that would be appreciated. KimKilWhan7 (talk) 16:03, August 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * "Christ-hating"? You're far too religious to be here. You're just making up things. If you want to leave, fine. But I think you're overreacting. Unreasonable? You never even put thought into your posts. Of course I'm being reasonable. And it's true, you really are Captain Falcon. Of course you're just going to lie straight to my face again, but whatever, goodbye.


 * And I'm warning you not to create a whole new article again, based on you wanting to leave. Just create a blog or something, I don't care, but not an article. That was really unnecessary.


 * Boggy B (talk) 17:35, August 10, 2014 (UTC)